Was Angelo Roncalli a Heretic Prior to His Election?
Pope John XXIII, page 258: Does the entire responsibility (for the schism) belong to our separated brothers? It is part theirs, but in the great part it is ours, since it has been up to us to soften the sorrow of those who suffer in schism, with gestures, with words, with the example of our humility and charity.
We Have a Pope, page 36 reports the same speech in a different translation: In September, 1957, when delivering the opening discourse at the Eastern Christianity Week at Palermo, he concluded his speech with the question: "Is the responsibility all on the side of our separated brethren? It is partly theirs, but largely also ours, since it belongs to us to soothe the grief of those who suffer in schism, be deed, word, the example of our humility, and charity-above all by those virtues which triumph over every obstacle.
This is a key statement of Roncalli. Basically, the Church is largely responsible for the Great Schism, according to Roncalli. Is it a sin to insist on obedience to the Pope? Remember the definition for heresy, Any baptized person who, doubts any of the truths proposed for belief by the divine and Catholic faith. By placing the blame for the Great Schism largely on the Church, he doubts the indefectibility of the Church
Pope John XXIII, page 213: (1952): My thoughts and my heart turn not only to our Catholic brethren but in the same way to all Christians of whatever persuasion who share with us Our Lord's message of love and to the great masses of many different races
The Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX condemns the following: Protestantism is nothing else than a different form of the same true Christian religion, in which it is possible to serve God as well as in the Catholic Church. (DZ 1718)
Pope John XXIII, page 143: I have encouraged the Catholics in their attitude of not making a public issue from the diversities existing between the two religions. (In addressing the difference between Catholic and Orthodox)
Pope John XXIII, page 257: I will tell you in confidence that from the time when the Lord led me in the pathways of the world to encounter men and people of an inspiration and civilization other than Christian, which is our summary grace, I have divided the 'canonical hours' in my daily recitation of the breviary so as to embrace in priestly prayer both the East and the West. (Emphasis mine)
In 1952 Roncalli addressed UNESCO, We Have A Pope, page 90-91: As representative of the most ancient and vast cultural organization in the world, called into existence under the motto: eunts docete, "Go and teach," UNESCO appeared henceforth to be not what everyone feared it might be at first, that is, a great museum destined for the intellectual or cultural distraction of a curious crowd, but as a great living hearth, the sparks of which would everywhere enkindle energies and cooperation for the ends of justice, liberty, and peace for all peoples of the earth, without distinction of race, language or religion.
Yes, without distinction of race, language or religion. (Since when, is the Catholic Church a cultural organization?)
Mission to France, page 8 (Paris 21 January, 1945): We have come to pray for Christian Unity and we pray as Catholics; but in order to attain this particular aim we pray in union with our brothers who belong to other Christian confessions: Orthodox, Greek and Slav; Protestants of all shades, peoples of all nationalities and all languages who believe in Christ.
The Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX condemns the following:
Everyman is free to embrace and profess that religion, which he led by the light of reason, thinks to be the true religion. (DZ 1715)
In the worship of any religion whatever, men can find the way to eternal salvation, and can attain eternal salvation. (DZ 1716)
Protestantism is nothing else that a different form of the same true Christian religion, in which it is possible to serve God as well as in the Catholic Church. (DZ 1718)
Mission to France, pages 140-1 (Unesco in Paris, 18 June, 1951): Now I have noticed that among the seventy diplomatic missions, of which only thirty are Catholic, those who seem most responsive to the Apostolic Nuncio's words, when he is inspired by this religious sense, are the Ambassadors in whose lands prevail a Buddhist, Confucian or Moslem tradition.
There are them certain elementary principles of a moral or religious character which constitute the original patrimony of all peoples, and upon which an understanding must be based, as the irreplaceable foundation of a common effort to succeed in the construction of the true social and world order of justice and peace. 1.
These principles, perhaps not yet clearly defined with some peoples, and confused with others, transfigured or disguised by the superimposition of ulterior growths, are nevertheless clear and glowing to the mind of a Catholic, who sees in them the immediate solution of the great problems of life and history. 2.
Unesco does not claim to have any direct concern with these: but in its search for forms and methods for the diffusion of culture it takes considerable notice of them. The Catholic who works with Unesco and in Enesco, with the maximum of prudence and discretion which Christian charity suggests and with the maximum respect for other men's freedom of thought, draws light and strength from these in his calculable contribution to the final success of our common efforts.
1. The above statement contains Modernism: Saint Pius X states in Pascendi: Here it is well to note at once that, given this doctrine of experience united with the other doctrine of symbolism, every religion, even that of paganism, must be held to be true. What is to prevent such experience to be met with in every religion? In fact that they are to found is asserted by not a few. And with what right will Modernists deny the truth of an experience affirmed by a follower of Islam? With what right can they claim true experiences for Catholics alone? Indeed Modernists do not deny but actually admit, some confusedly, others in the most open manner, that all religions are true. Now the religious sentiment, although it may be more perfect or less perfect, is always one and the same; and the intellectual formula, in order to be true, has but to respond to religious sentiment and to the Believer, whatever be the intellectual capacity of the latter. (Basically Modernists hold that all religions contain truth, whichi s opposed to the teaching that only the Catholic Religion founded by Jesus Christ contains all truth.)
2. It is also Modernist on the following basis: Pascendi: In the conflict between different religions, the most that Modernists can maintain is that the Catholic has more truth because it is more living and that is deserves with more reason the name of Christian because it corresponds more fully to the dogma of Christianity. For the Modernists to live is a proof of truth, since for them life and truth are one and the same thing. Hence again it is given to us to infer that all existing religions are equally true, for otherwise they would not live.
No wonder Roncalli found a note in his file, that he was suspect of Modernism.
Mission to France, page 97 (Paris 2 April, 1949): 'You are Peter and on this rock I will build my Church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, feed my sheep and my lambs. Strengthen your brethren in the faith I am with you always, to the close of the age. (Cf. Matthew 14:18-19; 28:20; John 21:16-17; Luke 22:32) (This is the quote given by Roncalli. Look at the actual quotes given below and contrast them)
Matthew 14:18-19: Who said to them: Bring them hither to me. And when he had commanded the multitude to sit down upon the grass, he took the five loaves and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to his disciples, and the disciples to the multitudes.
John 21:16: He saith to him again: Simon, son of John, lovest thou me? He saith to him: yea, Lord, thou knowest that I love thee. He saith to him: Feed my lambs. He said to him the third time: Simon, son of John, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he had said to him the third time: Lovest thou me? And he said to him: Lord, thou knowest all things: thou knowest that I love thee. He said to him: Feed my sheep.
Luke 22:32: But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and thou, being once converted, confirm thy brethren.
Notice these last two references: I am with you always, to the close of the age. Says Roncalli.
Matthew 28:19-20: Going therefore, teach ye all nations: baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you. And behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world. Says Sacred Scripture.
There is a big difference here, between the end of the world and the end of the age. The latter indicates that there is another age coming, which is contrary to the teaching of Saint Augustine, who says that we are in the last age. This is the teaching of the New Age Movement.
