ChurchCanElect

THE CHURCH CAN ELECT A POPE

In the quote above Journet is referring to Capetan who states that when there is a problem, such as doubt as who the true Cardinals are, then the Church itself can elect a Pope. With the election of Antipope John XXIII-II, Angelo Roncalli on October 28, 1958, we are left in a serious doubt. Since the Cardinals had disqualified themselves by electing someone who was not papabile, the Church was left with few Cardinals. These were all in capativity, such as Slipyji and Mindzenty. Therefore, if the true state of affairs had become known, then the Church could and would have proceeded without them, although some effort would have been made to obtain their release. If there was some ill Cardinal, who could be approached, then he could elect by himself or with others, if they were found. However, no effort was even considered until after the institution of the heretial Novus Ordo Missae. Every effort to elect a Pope met with great difficutlies. Fr. Saenz, for instance, died under mysterious circumstances. Let us however, go back in history.

The largest precedent for the Church proceeding exists in the Western Schism.

Saint Antonine of Florence observes: Although it is necessary to believe that there is but one supreme head of the Church, nevertheless, if it happens that two Popes are created at the same time, it is not necessary for the people to believe that this one or that one is the legitimate Pontiff; they must believe that he alone is the true Pope who has been regularly elected, and they are not bound to discern who that one is; as to that point, they may be guided by the conduct and opinion of their particular pastor. It should be noted that none of the claimants were heretics, which have proven them disqualified. Also in our time, not only was the Papacy vacant, but the Cardinals resigned by presenting us with a heretical usurper; the Diocesan Bishops resigned at or before Vatican II; the Pastors resigned on or before the instution of the Novus Ordo Missae. Most of the rest of the Church departed with their pastors, usually in ignorance.

Vox populi, vox Dei.

Pope Pius IX infallibly condemned the proposition: There is nothing to forbid that by the vote of a General Council or by the action of all peoples the Supreme Pontificate be transferred from the Roman Bishop and THE CITY (i.e. of Rome) to another bishopric and another city. (DZ 1735)

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The Church of the Word Incarnate, Charles Journet: He (Cajetan) explains first that the power to elect the Pope resides in his predecessors eminently, regularly and principally. Eminently, as the "forms" of lower beings are in the angels, who, however, are incapable in themselves of exercising the activities of bodies (Apologia, cap. xiii, no. 736). Regularly, that is to say as an ordinary right, unlike the Church in her widowhood, unable to determine a new mode of election save "in casu", unless forced by sheer necessity. Principally, unlike the widowed Church, in whom this power resides only secondarily (no. 737). During a vacancy of the Apostolic See, neither the Church nor the Council can contravene the provisions already laid down to determine the valid mode of election (De Comparata, cap. xiii, no. 202). However, in case of permission (for example if the Pope has provided nothing against it), or in case of ambiguity (for example, if it is unknown who the true Cardinals are or who the true Pope is, as was the case at the time of the Great Schism), the power "of applying the Papacy to such and such a person" devolves on the universal Church, the Church of God (ibid., no. 204).